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	<title>Comments on: GANG STARR / “Check The Technique”</title>
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		<title>by: Nadir</title>
		<link>http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/06/04/239/#comment-2364</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:47:46 -0500</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;ldquo;You puny protozoa?&amp;rdquo;&lt;br /&gt; Guru was at his intellectual best on the &amp;ldquo;Step in The Arena&amp;rdquo; album.&lt;br /&gt; Premier, the Prairie View alumnus, showed his ass on the beats. This is clearly Gang Starr&amp;rsquo;s greatest creation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;only&lt;br /&gt; Ice Cube&amp;rsquo;s &amp;ldquo;AmeriKKKa&amp;rsquo;s Most..&amp;rdquo;&lt;br /&gt; Brand Nubian&amp;rsquo;s &amp;ldquo;One For All&amp;rdquo;&lt;br /&gt; LL&amp;rsquo;s &amp;ldquo;Mama Said..&amp;rdquo;&lt;br /&gt; and BDP&amp;rsquo;s &amp;ldquo;Edutainment&amp;rdquo;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;had albums in the same class that year (90).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;ldquo;Dwick,&amp;rdquo; &amp;ldquo;Take It Personal,&amp;rdquo; and &amp;ldquo;I&amp;rsquo;m The Man,&amp;rdquo; notwithstanding,&lt;br /&gt; DAILY OPERATION, albeit a damn good album, had too much gun play for my taste.&lt;br /&gt; Guru sort of dumbed down to his audience.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mtume, nitpicking aside, we knew what sampling was during the 20 century&amp;rsquo;s last&lt;br /&gt; decade. Once Marley Marl &amp;quot;really&amp;quot; imposed his will on hip hop from 87 on, we were&lt;br /&gt; clear.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In fact, the following year Biz Markie got sued out the wazoo by some old white dude&lt;br /&gt; for &amp;ldquo;sampling&amp;rdquo; his tunes without authorization. The public and purists would forever&lt;br /&gt; be educated.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#ffffff&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Mtume says: &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nadir, slow down, man. Let me try to take this in order. First, if you're making a 'Great Rap Albums of 1990' list, it has to be longer than that. 1990 was a banner year for the music. I can't knock any of your selections, but what about PE's &lt;i&gt;Fear Of A Black Planet&lt;/i&gt; and ATCQ's &lt;i&gt;People's Instinctive Travels&lt;/i&gt;? And what about the Beastie Boys' &lt;i&gt;Paul's Boutique&lt;/i&gt;? Still one of my favorite hip-hop LPs ever and certainly the best ever dropped by any of our melanin-challenged brethren.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Second, you're going to boil down the &lt;i&gt;Daily Operation&lt;/i&gt; album to three tracks? Some of Gang Starr's best-ever material is on there: &amp;quot;Ex Girl To The Next Girl,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Soliloquy Of Chaos,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;2 Deep,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;No Shame In My Game,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Conspiracy.&amp;quot; Damn, I could just put the whole track listing on here. There's not a bad track on the LP. Not to mention that &amp;quot;Dwyck&amp;quot; isn't on the &lt;i&gt;Daily Operation&lt;/i&gt; album anyway. It was a b-side (don't remember to which single) and later they added it to &lt;i&gt;Hard To Earn&lt;/i&gt; as a bonus for people who didn't buy 12&amp;quot;s. So essentially, you're telling us that &lt;i&gt;Daily Operation &lt;/i&gt;had two good songs on it? That's silly. And, you're talking about too much gunplay? &amp;quot;Soliloquy Of Chaos&amp;quot; is telling cats to chill with the gunplay so the hip-hop show can go on. &amp;quot;Conspiracy&amp;quot; is in a similar vein, lyrically. You need to pull out &lt;i&gt;Daily Operation &lt;/i&gt;and listen again.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And last, I didn't say we didn't know what sampling was back then. (I can see how you thought that's what I meant though. I could've phrased it better.) What I actually said was: &amp;quot;Back in the early Nineties though, the average fan had no idea what was a sample and what wasn&amp;rsquo;t.&amp;quot; Meaning, you couldn't tell when a DJ was looping something and when he wasn't. We knew what loops were, we just couldn't I.D. them all that easily. Nowadays, when I hear a sample, I just click over to one of the sample I.D. sites and, bam, there it is. Back then, I always had to wonder.&lt;br /&gt; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&ldquo;You puny protozoa?&rdquo;<br /> Guru was at his intellectual best on the &ldquo;Step in The Arena&rdquo; album.<br /> Premier, the Prairie View alumnus, showed his ass on the beats. This is clearly Gang Starr&rsquo;s greatest creation.</p>
	<p>only<br /> Ice Cube&rsquo;s &ldquo;AmeriKKKa&rsquo;s Most..&rdquo;<br /> Brand Nubian&rsquo;s &ldquo;One For All&rdquo;<br /> LL&rsquo;s &ldquo;Mama Said..&rdquo;<br /> and BDP&rsquo;s &ldquo;Edutainment&rdquo;</p>
	<p>had albums in the same class that year (90).</p>
	<p>&ldquo;Dwick,&rdquo; &ldquo;Take It Personal,&rdquo; and &ldquo;I&rsquo;m The Man,&rdquo; notwithstanding,<br /> DAILY OPERATION, albeit a damn good album, had too much gun play for my taste.<br /> Guru sort of dumbed down to his audience.</p>
	<p>Mtume, nitpicking aside, we knew what sampling was during the 20 century&rsquo;s last<br /> decade. Once Marley Marl &quot;really&quot; imposed his will on hip hop from 87 on, we were<br /> clear.</p>
	<p>In fact, the following year Biz Markie got sued out the wazoo by some old white dude<br /> for &ldquo;sampling&rdquo; his tunes without authorization. The public and purists would forever<br /> be educated.</p>
	<p><font color="#ffffff"><span style="background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mtume says: &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;</font> </p>
	<p>Nadir, slow down, man. Let me try to take this in order. First, if you&#8217;re making a &#8216;Great Rap Albums of 1990&#8242; list, it has to be longer than that. 1990 was a banner year for the music. I can&#8217;t knock any of your selections, but what about PE&#8217;s <i>Fear Of A Black Planet</i> and ATCQ&#8217;s <i>People&#8217;s Instinctive Travels</i>? And what about the Beastie Boys&#8217; <i>Paul&#8217;s Boutique</i>? Still one of my favorite hip-hop LPs ever and certainly the best ever dropped by any of our melanin-challenged brethren.</p>
	<p>Second, you&#8217;re going to boil down the <i>Daily Operation</i> album to three tracks? Some of Gang Starr&#8217;s best-ever material is on there: &quot;Ex Girl To The Next Girl,&quot; &quot;Soliloquy Of Chaos,&quot; &quot;2 Deep,&quot; &quot;No Shame In My Game,&quot; &quot;Conspiracy.&quot; Damn, I could just put the whole track listing on here. There&#8217;s not a bad track on the LP. Not to mention that &quot;Dwyck&quot; isn&#8217;t on the <i>Daily Operation</i> album anyway. It was a b-side (don&#8217;t remember to which single) and later they added it to <i>Hard To Earn</i> as a bonus for people who didn&#8217;t buy 12&quot;s. So essentially, you&#8217;re telling us that <i>Daily Operation </i>had two good songs on it? That&#8217;s silly. And, you&#8217;re talking about too much gunplay? &quot;Soliloquy Of Chaos&quot; is telling cats to chill with the gunplay so the hip-hop show can go on. &quot;Conspiracy&quot; is in a similar vein, lyrically. You need to pull out <i>Daily Operation </i>and listen again.</p>
	<p>And last, I didn&#8217;t say we didn&#8217;t know what sampling was back then. (I can see how you thought that&#8217;s what I meant though. I could&#8217;ve phrased it better.) What I actually said was: &quot;Back in the early Nineties though, the average fan had no idea what was a sample and what wasn&rsquo;t.&quot; Meaning, you couldn&#8217;t tell when a DJ was looping something and when he wasn&#8217;t. We knew what loops were, we just couldn&#8217;t I.D. them all that easily. Nowadays, when I hear a sample, I just click over to one of the sample I.D. sites and, bam, there it is. Back then, I always had to wonder.<br /> &nbsp; </p>
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		<title>by: Tones</title>
		<link>http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/06/04/239/#comment-2365</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:48:56 -0500</pubDate>
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					<description>An awesome roundup this week, guys. I always wondered where the Shadow/Midnight drums came from.

For the other driving Dark Lady sample, check out the lead track on Floria Purim's 'Open Your Eyes You Can Fly'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>An awesome roundup this week, guys. I always wondered where the Shadow/Midnight drums came from.</p>
	<p>For the other driving Dark Lady sample, check out the lead track on Floria Purim&#8217;s &#8216;Open Your Eyes You Can Fly&#8217;.
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		<title>by: Mtume</title>
		<link>http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/06/04/239/#comment-2366</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:09:53 -0500</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;OK, I just did a little checking to confirm the &amp;quot;Dwyck&amp;quot; situation. Here's the deal (from sandbox.com):&lt;/p&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;   &lt;p&gt;The first 12&amp;quot; off the new LP [meaning, &lt;i&gt;Daily Operation&lt;/i&gt;] literally blew fans away. &amp;quot;Take It Personal&amp;quot; was a much darker track than most were used to but it featured some ill ass lyrics from Mr. Guru. But in all honesty, it was &amp;quot;DWYCK&amp;quot; that was blowing this 12&amp;quot; up all over the country. Featuring a rediculous head-knoddin bounce track and a great cameo from Nice &amp;amp; Smooth, this was to be a much sought after 12&amp;quot; after those idiots at Chrysalis left &amp;quot;DWYCK&amp;quot; off the album...&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;p&gt;BTW, I always assumed D.W.Y.C.K. was an acroynm for something. Anybody know for what?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>OK, I just did a little checking to confirm the &quot;Dwyck&quot; situation. Here&#8217;s the deal (from sandbox.com):</p>
	<blockquote><p>The first 12&quot; off the new LP [meaning, <i>Daily Operation</i>] literally blew fans away. &quot;Take It Personal&quot; was a much darker track than most were used to but it featured some ill ass lyrics from Mr. Guru. But in all honesty, it was &quot;DWYCK&quot; that was blowing this 12&quot; up all over the country. Featuring a rediculous head-knoddin bounce track and a great cameo from Nice &amp; Smooth, this was to be a much sought after 12&quot; after those idiots at Chrysalis left &quot;DWYCK&quot; off the album&#8230;</p></blockquote>
	<p>BTW, I always assumed D.W.Y.C.K. was an acroynm for something. Anybody know for what?</p>
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		<title>by: Nadir</title>
		<link>http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/06/04/239/#comment-2367</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:30:55 -0500</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;ldquo;Welcome to the Terrordome&amp;rdquo;&amp;mdash;si.&lt;br /&gt; &amp;ldquo;Fear Of A Black Planet&amp;rdquo;&amp;mdash;uuuhhh.&lt;br /&gt; I missed Hank Shocklee.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Had a brain fart on Tribes first album,&lt;br /&gt; a classic indeed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As for your Daily Operation argument, I can&amp;rsquo;t hate on your reasoning.&lt;br /&gt; I still prefer &amp;ldquo;Step&amp;rdquo; though.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sorry about the &amp;ldquo;Dwick&amp;rdquo; reference, should&amp;rsquo;ve looked at the collection before I spoke.&lt;br /&gt; &amp;ldquo;Paul&amp;rsquo;s Boutique&amp;rdquo; came out in 89, so I guess we&amp;rsquo;re even with the oops.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Beastie&amp;rsquo;s classic second album single handedly changed the way producers used samples.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I pump that shit like deflated tires.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#ffffff&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Mtume says: &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt; Beastie Boys' Paul's Boutique. Original release date: July 31, 1989.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.kalamu.com/bol/wp-content/plugins/Wysi-Wordpress/plugins/emotions/images/doh.gif&quot; alt=&quot;emoticon&quot; title=&quot;emoticon&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&ldquo;Welcome to the Terrordome&rdquo;&mdash;si.<br /> &ldquo;Fear Of A Black Planet&rdquo;&mdash;uuuhhh.<br /> I missed Hank Shocklee.</p>
	<p>Had a brain fart on Tribes first album,<br /> a classic indeed.</p>
	<p>As for your Daily Operation argument, I can&rsquo;t hate on your reasoning.<br /> I still prefer &ldquo;Step&rdquo; though.</p>
	<p>Sorry about the &ldquo;Dwick&rdquo; reference, should&rsquo;ve looked at the collection before I spoke.<br /> &ldquo;Paul&rsquo;s Boutique&rdquo; came out in 89, so I guess we&rsquo;re even with the oops.</p>
	<p>The Beastie&rsquo;s classic second album single handedly changed the way producers used samples.</p>
	<p>I pump that shit like deflated tires.</p>
	<p>&nbsp;</p>
	<p><font color="#ffffff"><span style="background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Mtume says: &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font>&nbsp; <br /> Beastie Boys&#8217; Paul&#8217;s Boutique. Original release date: July 31, 1989.&nbsp;&nbsp;<img src="http://www.kalamu.com/bol/wp-content/plugins/Wysi-Wordpress/plugins/emotions/images/doh.gif" alt="emoticon" title="emoticon" /></p>
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		<title>by: Nesta</title>
		<link>http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/06/04/239/#comment-2369</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 16:26:45 -0500</pubDate>
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					<description>There's other good ones, of course, but I think the other essential album from 1990 is Kool G Rap &amp;amp; Polo's 2nd, and best, _Wanted Dead or Alive_.  

I don't think &quot;DWYCK&quot; stood for anything, but I don't remember what it's supposed to mean (if anything).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There&#8217;s other good ones, of course, but I think the other essential album from 1990 is Kool G Rap &amp; Polo&#8217;s 2nd, and best, _Wanted Dead or Alive_.  </p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t think &#8220;DWYCK&#8221; stood for anything, but I don&#8217;t remember what it&#8217;s supposed to mean (if anything).
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