Comments on: GHOSTFACE KILLAH feat. MARY J. BLIGE / “All That I Got Is You” http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/05/14/ghostface-killah-featuring-mary-j-blidge-%e2%80%9call-that-i-got-is-you%e2%80%9d/ a conversation about black music Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:53:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5 by: hardCore http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/05/14/ghostface-killah-featuring-mary-j-blidge-%e2%80%9call-that-i-got-is-you%e2%80%9d/#comment-1262 Sun, 14 May 2006 16:12:53 -0500 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/05/14/ghostface-killah-featuring-mary-j-blidge-%e2%80%9call-that-i-got-is-you%e2%80%9d/#comment-1262 pac is really the only rapper who emotes on the level of a blues singer. you FEEL him. i think that's where his greatness lies. most rappers tried to out wit each other. meanwhile pac outshined them all on an emotional level. pac overated? never that. lol pac is really the only rapper who emotes on the level of a blues singer. you FEEL him. i think that’s where his greatness lies. most rappers tried to out wit each other. meanwhile pac outshined them all on an emotional level. pac overated? never that. lol

]]> by: tayari kwa salaam http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/05/14/ghostface-killah-featuring-mary-j-blidge-%e2%80%9call-that-i-got-is-you%e2%80%9d/#comment-1263 Sun, 14 May 2006 17:27:14 -0500 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/05/14/ghostface-killah-featuring-mary-j-blidge-%e2%80%9call-that-i-got-is-you%e2%80%9d/#comment-1263 I gotta be honest. This ain't mah thang, but I'm listening n learning to whatchu sayin, Mtume. I deeply appreciate what Afeni says bout my/our generation bein "frightened into panic" n yeah, lying to our children, sometimes consciously, sometimes not, unaware of the detriment/death we would n have caused for our children/the next generation, generation x. I gotta be honest. This ain’t mah thang, but I’m listening n learning to whatchu sayin, Mtume. I deeply appreciate what Afeni says bout my/our generation bein “frightened into panic” n yeah, lying to our children, sometimes consciously, sometimes not, unaware of the detriment/death we would n have caused for our children/the next generation, generation x.

]]> by: Nadir http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/05/14/ghostface-killah-featuring-mary-j-blidge-%e2%80%9call-that-i-got-is-you%e2%80%9d/#comment-1264 Sun, 14 May 2006 18:34:11 -0500 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/05/14/ghostface-killah-featuring-mary-j-blidge-%e2%80%9call-that-i-got-is-you%e2%80%9d/#comment-1264 I have never been a tupac fan post katrina and I still have over a thousand hip hop records in my house from classics to wackest not one tupac rhyme is in my collection personally I dug dude better as an actor than a mc. in fact, his role as “bishop” catapulted his career. which brings me to Dear Mama. I have always thought the “crack fiend” line was inappropriate and exploitive. I’ve read more positive things about Afeni Shakur in anthologies about the Black Panthers, than any song Tupac has ever made in reference to his mother. I think the older folk embrace this song because they think it’s an end result of the comments Afeni made in the intro of mtume’ piece. the image of mom in the video, while her son was incarcerated didn’t hurt either. scarface begat tupac (in content and style) he just didn’t have the looks, cultural upbringing, or acting prowess to reach iconic status. I have never been a tupac fan

post katrina
and I still have over a thousand hip hop records in my house
from classics to wackest
not one tupac rhyme is in my collection

personally I dug dude better as an actor than a mc.
in fact, his role as “bishop” catapulted his career.

which brings me to Dear Mama.
I have always thought the “crack fiend” line was inappropriate
and exploitive.

I’ve read more positive things about Afeni Shakur
in anthologies about the Black Panthers, than any song Tupac
has ever made in reference to his mother.

I think the older folk embrace this song because they think it’s an end result
of the comments Afeni made in the intro of mtume’ piece.

the image of mom in the video, while her son was incarcerated didn’t hurt either.

scarface begat tupac (in content and style)
he just didn’t have the looks, cultural upbringing, or acting prowess
to reach iconic status.

]]> by: DJKATA http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/05/14/ghostface-killah-featuring-mary-j-blidge-%e2%80%9call-that-i-got-is-you%e2%80%9d/#comment-1266 Mon, 15 May 2006 03:57:36 -0500 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/05/14/ghostface-killah-featuring-mary-j-blidge-%e2%80%9call-that-i-got-is-you%e2%80%9d/#comment-1266 Nadir - I Cosign 100% Thats all that needs to be said Nadir - I Cosign 100%
Thats all that needs to be said

]]> by: hardCore http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/05/14/ghostface-killah-featuring-mary-j-blidge-%e2%80%9call-that-i-got-is-you%e2%80%9d/#comment-1267 Mon, 15 May 2006 09:24:46 -0500 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/05/14/ghostface-killah-featuring-mary-j-blidge-%e2%80%9call-that-i-got-is-you%e2%80%9d/#comment-1267 hold up nadir... if afeni didn't think the line was expoitive why should you? as for scarface, i like him too. but pac towers over him in personality, flow, versality, honesty and once again, emotion. and like you, i own a lot of records. yeah, there are certain artists who i am just not fans of, but even those artist have made records that are just undeniable. to insinuate pac has nothing worthy of being in your collection says less about who pac was as an artist, and more about who you are as a listener. not trying to convert you to like 2pac, that seems unlikely. just asking you to listen, through clean ears, instead of the ones they believe, "pac is wack". peace. hold up nadir… if afeni didn’t think the line was expoitive why should you?

as for scarface, i like him too. but pac towers over him in personality, flow, versality, honesty and once again, emotion.

and like you, i own a lot of records. yeah, there are certain artists who i am just not fans of, but even those artist have made records that are just undeniable. to insinuate pac has nothing worthy of being in your collection says less about who pac was as an artist, and more about who you are as a listener. not trying to convert you to like 2pac, that seems unlikely. just asking you to listen, through clean ears, instead of the ones they believe, “pac is wack”. peace.

]]> by: Kiini http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/05/14/ghostface-killah-featuring-mary-j-blidge-%e2%80%9call-that-i-got-is-you%e2%80%9d/#comment-1362 Wed, 17 May 2006 15:07:48 -0500 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/05/14/ghostface-killah-featuring-mary-j-blidge-%e2%80%9call-that-i-got-is-you%e2%80%9d/#comment-1362 it's probably as much my own personal issues than anything, but i felt angy and sick at the end of the ghostface killa's song and a "father" voice is talking and laughing. after all the trials and tribulations of the mother and children, i didn't want to hear theorizing from the father figure, unless he was telling his side or something... but maybe he was supposed to be the grown up ghostface? but ghostface is grown. i don't know what that was. i wasn't really feeling the Goodie Mob. it is like you described when you covered them... they are earthy and not too many frills. but i just didn't like it. but i did like hearing a bit of variety in your stories. re: Tupac, you're right Baba. Perceptive of you to notice that only Tupac's was actually about his mother. hmmmm. Going to do a father's day one? interesting to listen to this in relationship to Gil's pieces. kiini it’s probably as much my own personal issues than anything, but i felt angy and sick at the end of the ghostface killa’s song and a “father” voice is talking and laughing. after all the trials and tribulations of the mother and children, i didn’t want to hear theorizing from the father figure, unless he was telling his side or something… but maybe he was supposed to be the grown up ghostface? but ghostface is grown. i don’t know what that was.

i wasn’t really feeling the Goodie Mob. it is like you described when you covered them… they are earthy and not too many frills. but i just didn’t like it. but i did like hearing a bit of variety in your stories.

re: Tupac, you’re right Baba. Perceptive of you to notice that only Tupac’s was actually about his mother. hmmmm.

Going to do a father’s day one?

interesting to listen to this in relationship to Gil’s pieces.

kiini

]]> by: ing http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/05/14/ghostface-killah-featuring-mary-j-blidge-%e2%80%9call-that-i-got-is-you%e2%80%9d/#comment-1837 Fri, 19 May 2006 11:10:29 -0500 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2006/05/14/ghostface-killah-featuring-mary-j-blidge-%e2%80%9call-that-i-got-is-you%e2%80%9d/#comment-1837 I always thought Tupac was talented. Great flow, better actor and real feeling. That said he's still not one of the greatest rappers, he's average with his wordplay, nearly mother goose with his vocabulary. I like him but he's not in the rakim/kane/etc. category. I always thought Tupac was talented. Great flow, better actor and real feeling. That said he’s still not one of the greatest rappers, he’s average with his wordplay, nearly mother goose with his vocabulary. I like him but he’s not in the rakim/kane/etc. category.

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