M.C. LYTE / “Paper Thin”


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8 Responses to “M.C. LYTE / “Paper Thin””

Nadir Says:
December 7th, 2005 at 11:59 pm

Back in early “88” there was a cat who got some trivial question right on one of New Orleans’ local so called “r&b/rap” stations. The prize, announced by one of the more astute radio personalities working at the time, was a copy of MC Lyte’s debut album: Lyte As A Rock. The major oversight this “dj” (and I would say his name, but that would give him fame!) made was stating that the caller had just won a copy of … “A new cool brother named MAC LIT. This big brother’s rap is bad!” I guess if you didn’t look carefully at this rap classics album cover, and didn’t have any phonetic bone in your body, but a whole lot of sexism in your misinformation, it would be easy to mistake that “big brother” from the cover as being one of the most deadliest mc’s or all time. Well dj’s make mistakes, and young teenagers stop listening to radio stations for a long time.

Antionette was the name of the mc that got her career ruined by lyte. They had some verbal sparring that lasted a few songs, until the infamous b-side “Hoe shut the eff up” came out. Back in those rap credibility days, if you were dissed correctly, your career as an mc could have been taken away. There are 2 interesting points about this particular battle. 1. Antionette was a pretty good mc. 2. Lyte actually beat her with her first response: 10% dis (which is on this classic too). “Hoe shut the eff up” erased Antionette off of the hip hop map, and put Lyte in that elite category of being called one of the most cutthroat battle mc’s to ever done it in recorded history.


Kiini Says:
December 8th, 2005 at 7:09 pm

Well I have so much to say about M.C. Lyte.

Listening to I Cram To Understand You right now, I’m struck by how much is in the song. It is not a bunch of music with a light sprinkling of lyrics, Lyte has a lot to say. Lots of words, lots of different structures, telling a whole story.

Why do I love light? Well she’s so good at putting people in their place. In fact, I think that’s her genre. Putting people in their place rap. All these classic cuts are in the vintage rap cadence… her cadence in I Cram to Understand You reminds me of The Bridge.

One of my favorite Lyte songs–more for the lyrics than the music–is Cha Cha Cha, which by the way, she rhymes with “Mardi Gras”…

You can cha cha cha to this Mardi Gras
Because I’m the dopest female that you heard this far
And it does get better, the voice gets wetter
Nobody gets hurt (as long as you let her)
Do my thing with an 89 swing…

and on and on and on so flows and flows against an unnamed antgonist who may as well as be Antoinette.

She rhymes about hurting the girl so bad that she’s in the hosptial, but then reminds her…

Visiting time, I think it’s on Sunday
But notice you only get one day to shine
The rest of the week is mine
And I’ll blind them with the courage that the others have yet to find…

She is the Lyte, that will blind the sight,
but the rhythm will still guide you through the night!

Gotta run, will share more on Lyte later….


Kiini Says:
December 8th, 2005 at 9:58 pm

O.K., so when I read about Lyte demolilshing someone on wax, I mentally went straight to the duet she has on Common’s Like Water for Chocolate. I don’t know what the plan for that duet was, but she SLAYS common. At the end, he just has to exuse himself b/c he can’t do nothing with her. She just don’t cooperate. She coming up with all her side schemes.

O.K. the pretense is Common is a pimp, but a pimp with a side message of taking Lyte as a poor street prostitute higher… spiritually, emotionally, etc. I think Common is trying to elevate the pimp conversation into something positive, like he’s going to be a positive pimp. In his lyrics he seems to be high on his own pimp juice explaining how he’s trying to save Lyte’s character and how he wants to expand her mind, etc. He seems to fascinated with the fact that he is talking about something different than the next pimp.

But, it is impossible to elevate the pimp conversation. He’s still talking about pimping. Lyte gets that you can’t do pimp shit nowhere but in the gutter. Lyte’s rhymes are hard edged about survival and when she notices how soft this wanna be pimp is, she strikes out at him as quick as lightning… saying she’s going to string him by his navel and make him work for her. She’s been looking for an abstract ho.

LOL.

O.k., so none of this is going to save our nation, even though Common wants to be a nation saving pimp. But damn if a hard edged woman taking no prisoners and kicking an MC off his own record ain’t a joy to witness.


ekere Says:
December 10th, 2005 at 7:13 am

Lyte is classic. Paper Thin is timeless. Lyte could take out most of these cats on the radio today. And hey, in the Paper Thin video doesn’t she say “I just have this feelin, I wanna take the subway,” so she leaves her ride, gets on the train , sees her man with someone else, and then…it’s over. Ah, those were the good ol’ days of rap. 🙂


WILLIAM HOUSE Says:
April 21st, 2006 at 6:24 pm

I REMEMBER ANTOINETTE AND I THINK SHE WAS ONE OF THE BEST FEMALE MC’s OF THE 80’s.I THINK SUCH FEMALE RAPPERS LIKE LIL KIM AND FOXY BROWN COPY ANTOINETTE STYLE AND BROUGHT THAT TRADITION TO THE 90’s.I THOUGHT ANTOINETTE WAS A GREAT FEMALE MC,BUT SHE FELL SHORT WITH MC LYTE,BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT EVER HAPPEN TO ANTOINETTE BECAUSE SHE GOT TO BE LISTED AS ONE OF THE BEST FEMALE LYRICIST OF ALL TIME AND SHE WAS CLOSE OF BEING THE BEST FEMALE MC.


DarkDepth Says:
May 15th, 2006 at 7:06 pm

I mean she’s the only female I’ve heard tell stories. From I Cram 2 Understand, Cappucino, Not Wit A Dealer, Lola From The Copa, Poor Georgie, Like A Virgin, Druglord Superstar, etc.

I mean she battles, got the best voice, comes hard every era, motivating students and women, she has fun with records, she doesnt glorify drugs and alcohol. In fact she has been able to pull street credibility and still totally demonize it because of her level of seriousness, self respect and skill.

Everybody from 2Pac, BIG, Nas, Chuck D, Talib Kweli, Bahamadia, AZ has shown her love in their music, videos, etc. She is well deserved of the respect and its sad she’s not considered in the top10-15.

Much love the New Jersey but the true Queen is from Brooklyn.


morenajoy Says:
December 11th, 2006 at 12:31 pm

i love the video but did she have to do that to my boy cedric…. love you baby!


Kiana Pierce Says:
July 19th, 2007 at 2:38 pm

Does anyone know where they sampled mc lyte – cha cha cha beat from. i know it was an old school song fro the 80’s but i cant find what song she sampled the beat from.. if you do know plz email me yella_belle2007@yahoo.com


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