Comments on: TALIB KWELI & HI-TEK / “For Women” http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/ a conversation about black music Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:15:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5 by: Berry http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-276 Sun, 30 Oct 2005 18:13:31 -0600 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-276 Although the original stands out in my opinion, Veir Frauen is a nice interpretation. The Talib rendition just doesn't appeal to me. Although the original stands out in my opinion, Veir Frauen is a nice interpretation. The Talib rendition just doesn’t appeal to me.

]]> by: DJKATA http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-278 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 05:50:40 -0600 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-278 One of my favourite tracks from my favourite albums. its a pity Kweli cant make songs like this anymore, but thats another discussion... One of my favourite tracks from my favourite albums. its a pity Kweli cant make songs like this anymore, but thats another discussion…

]]> by: white silk http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-280 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:38:43 -0600 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-280 Kweli's joint stands far and away above the majority of hip-hop in that not only praises his elders (Nina Simone whom I often wonder isn't Kweli's favorite artist as he references her in many of his songs and/or uses samples of her work in much of his beats) but also in its depth of creativity. I have yet to find a hip hop artist (and I have listened to many over the past 25 years that hip hop truly became formidable) delve deep into the history of black people in this country quite like Talib does in his "cover" of Nina's Four Women. It's very hard to do when covering a classic song by a classic musician but I honestly think his version possibly surpassed the master herself! I get chills when that piano and viloin kick meet the drumbeat at the 0:44 second mark. Chilling lyrics, chilling stories, chilling track overall! As the final track on Kweli/Hi-Tek's first album, this often is forgotten about and it needn't be...........Kudos for bringing this song to more people's attention! Kweli’s joint stands far and away above the majority of hip-hop in that not only praises his elders (Nina Simone whom I often wonder isn’t Kweli’s favorite artist as he references her in many of his songs and/or uses samples of her work in much of his beats) but also in its depth of creativity. I have yet to find a hip hop artist (and I have listened to many over the past 25 years that hip hop truly became formidable) delve deep into the history of black people in this country quite like Talib does in his “cover” of Nina’s Four Women. It’s very hard to do when covering a classic song by a classic musician but I honestly think his version possibly surpassed the master herself! I get chills when that piano and viloin kick meet the drumbeat at the 0:44 second mark. Chilling lyrics, chilling stories, chilling track overall! As the final track on Kweli/Hi-Tek’s first album, this often is forgotten about and it needn’t be………..Kudos for bringing this song to more people’s attention!

]]> by: Nadir http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-283 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:35:27 -0600 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-283 Talib managed to enter that rare plateau of artistry: No matter what pigeon shit you drop on our listening heads later in life, you did THAT! Rass Kass made "Nature of the threat" and we been takin' our sunday's best to the cleaners ever since. Talib's THAT is "for women". What makes this hidden track from the "train of thought" classic is it's intent on recreating Nina's class "four women" as a true fan. You can tell dude really loves this song. And truthfully as an artist, Talib didn't have to cover this song for any forseeable "hip hop" reason. I love when cats think outside the coffin, especially mc's. i saw talib end his set at the house of blues with "for woman", and he was obviously floored when people were rockin' to that shit, singing along. it was special... Talib managed to enter that rare plateau of artistry: No matter what pigeon shit you drop on our listening heads later in life, you did THAT!

Rass Kass made “Nature of the threat” and we been takin’ our sunday’s best to the cleaners ever since.

Talib’s THAT is “for women”.

What makes this hidden track from the “train of thought” classic is it’s intent on recreating Nina’s class “four women” as a true fan.

You can tell dude really loves this song. And truthfully as an artist, Talib didn’t have to cover this song for any forseeable “hip hop” reason.

I love when cats think outside the coffin, especially mc’s.

i saw talib end his set at the house of blues with “for woman”, and he was obviously floored when people were rockin’ to that shit, singing along.

it was special…

]]> by: viqifrench http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-285 Thu, 03 Nov 2005 18:52:58 -0600 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-285 have to say, my favorite cover (so far) of Four Women is nenna freelon's. it's so alive and vibrant and proud and unapologetic about who "the women" are. somehow, talib's version of this song got by me all these years; i was surprised to learn of it here. i'll definitely check it out, as i do have two other talib cd's in my collection. so i'm quite curious. have to say, my favorite cover (so far) of Four Women is nenna freelon’s. it’s so alive and vibrant and proud and unapologetic about who “the women” are.

somehow, talib’s version of this song got by me all these years; i was surprised to learn of it here. i’ll definitely check it out, as i do have two other talib cd’s in my collection. so i’m quite curious.

]]> by: Suman http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-286 Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:34:34 -0600 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-286 I agree with you Nadir, Talib is in that rarefied group of artists. For me, his THAT was 2000 seasons.. I agree with you Nadir, Talib is in that rarefied group of artists. For me, his THAT was 2000 seasons..

]]> by: naomi http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-944 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:31:38 -0500 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-944 talib kweli est vraiment un artiste super... talib kweli est vraiment un artiste super…

]]> by: circa94 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-6096 Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:09:16 -0600 http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/10/29/talib-kweli-hi-tek-%e2%80%9cfor-women%e2%80%9d/#comment-6096 Kweli's version is phenomenal, and in my opinion the beat is up to par. I could understand how some people might not appreciate it as much, but it really gives it both emotion and hip hop flavor to me, the brief snips of horns and the low-filtered bass are trademarks in many older classic hip hop songs. Props to the author of this article, I just discovered this song not too long ago and now I'd say it is in my favorites of all time category. In this song, Kweli lives up to not just showing it how it is, but how it could be. He shows the high potential of hip hop to create something that is intellectually stimultating and emotionally potent. Kweli’s version is phenomenal, and in my opinion the beat is up to par. I could understand how some people might not appreciate it as much, but it really gives it both emotion and hip hop flavor to me, the brief snips of horns and the low-filtered bass are trademarks in many older classic hip hop songs. Props to the author of this article, I just discovered this song not too long ago and now I’d say it is in my favorites of all time category. In this song, Kweli lives up to not just showing it how it is, but how it could be. He shows the high potential of hip hop to create something that is intellectually stimultating and emotionally potent.

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